Pontius Gutierrez or Carlos Pilates?
Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez spoke at the Heritage Foundation in Washington DC.
The theme was “Cuba at a Crossroads” and Gutierrez gave his views as the co-chair of the Commission for Assistance to a Free Cuba, plus the official Administration’s perspective on Cuba.
So, this guy is the co-chair for that famous commission for a free Cuba, which has done absofuckinglutely nothing of value for a free Cuba, those are the same guys who are telling W that my five dollars to my old nanny support Castro while the business done by 34 States of the Union in Cuba apparently have given both castro's their cancers. I would love to know how many people in said commission know people in Cuba or have contacts of any value in Cuba. I would love to know with how many common Cubans do they talk and how many people can they say that trust them in Cuba. What was the last time that they suffered in their own flesh the conditions of life in Cuba? or when were they jailed for speaking their minds in Cuba?
He said that he returned yestarday from a trip to Peru, Colombi and Panama and everything is great and rosy, down there, specially that the paramilitary in Columbia is back to the herd and that there's prosperity and so on and so forth.
What are you asking?
Did he mention Evo and Chavez, and the rise of the left in Latin America?
No, he didn't mention that. Apparently he didn't notice all that brouhaha.
He's the only one I know who find Latin America marching towards democracy and economic freedom. I thought that we were witnessing the forces of communism taking one by one the countries of Latin America. He recognizes though that Cuba is not marching towards freedom and democracy, but hey, that's been happenign for the last fifty years, high time someone noticed.
Let's see what he said:
"In Cuba people remain repressed; the economy remains closed and doors remain tightly shut, shackled by a repressive Communist system.
Cuba is the human rights travesty of the Hemisphere."
And after this very significative two sentences he goes again into businesses in Latin America, and their supposed prosperity and democracy with no mentions of the dangers of chavo-communism, the pressence of Russia and China, the presence of Iran and the influence of anti-American outfits such as Al-Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah in Latin America. He's not reading enough KillCastro lately, I think.
After a tirade of significant lenght about on the subject, he goes into the meaning of W's trips in the region.
Needless to say, we have evidence in everyday's Latin American papers that the Western Hemisphere is nowhere in the sights of the White House, otherwise the red tsunami flooding the Latin American region would simply not be happening.
But apparently he sees the light and says:
"There is a competing vision. One that:
Spreads poverty, not prosperity.
Empowers governments, not people.
Discourages creativity, individualism, free-speech, and free markets.
Over the past decades, the Western Hemisphere has moved forward economically and politically. Under the Castro dictatorship, however, Cuba has moved backward.
When the subject of Cuba comes up, the question I’m often asked is this: has the U.S. embargo has worked? My answer is an emphatic yes."
(sorry, what the hell? what embargo Carlos? give me a break here, the whole damn world deals with Cuba, and as I said before a slew of States of the American Union too. And the guy's obtaining even more money than ever from other sources, especially from the clients of the Lourdes Electronic Surveillance and Monitoring facility, namely Russia, China, and Iran!
Didn't you hear that the Pentagon was hacked by the Chinese Army? And you think that they did that from Beijing, right? It has worked and the castros have been able to maintain their grip for fifty years? Then it has worked in keeping the kasstro's in power, Mr. Secretary)
And he goes:
"The embargo has denied Castro resources:
Denied him funds to export his so-called “Revolution.”
Think about the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. . . or Angola, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Grenada in the 1980s.
When the Castro regime has had resources, it hasn’t benefited Cubans, but has been an international threat and a threat to its own citizens. The embargo has denied Castro the resources to do damage to this country and other countries in the world."
(of course, Carlos doesn't know that Daniel Ortega is back in business, and that Evo and el Chavo are there because Kasstro put them there, he doesn't know about the turmoil in Ecuador, Peru, and Colombia, and he has no idea that the President of Argentina is a che lover lefty, and that the alcoholic Lula is another lefty)
Whenever he has more resources, the Cuban people haven’t benefited. Only Castro, his cronies, the Cuban military and foreign Communist guerrillas have benefited.
(and you're telling me that this situation is no more? I think that they are benefiting today more than ever. Look around, Carlitos, with eyes wide open, and tell me how the so called embargo has improved the lives of the Cuban people or their chances to gain freedom..... )
Imagine what he and his brother would have done with greater resources?
(They have done enough damage as is, and instead of one embargo a measly missile could have taken them out in one of those chances when they were together, at a low cost in lives, in money, and energies is there were any serious intention of helping the Cuban people to be free)
President Bush is determined to keep the policy in place and to continue to take initiatives to hasten the Cuban people’s day of freedom.
(I guess that the "policy" is the Dry Foot Wet Foot, the limitation on cash and remitances, and the limits in family contacts. Besides, none of those has a thing to do with the embargo)
Our focus must remain on the plight of the Cuban people. This is why the United States authorizes humanitarian donations that reach the Cuban people. Our nation is the largest source of such help.
(what about the help that Cubans in the United States can give their family members? Isn't that help very important? What about the help to dissidents, and the contacts with people in the island, aren't those humanitarian too? How humanitarian is that the Cuban family has been divided by castro and and top of that the American government regulates who is my family contrary to the Cuban customs and traditions? How humanitarian is to limit family visits and to limit cash remitances, why to have more restrictions on top of the restrictions already imposed by the tyranny?)
This is not about U.S. policy—this is about Cuban policy—about the Cuban regime’s treatment of its own people.
(and what exactly is being done to eliminate that abusive regime?)
When will the Cuban people be free to:
Travel abroad and internally.
Change jobs and create independent businesses of their choice.
Choose the education they want for their children.
Visit any hotels or resorts or other tourist areas they wish in their own country.
Watch and listen to independent, uncensored television and radio stations.
Read any book, magazine or newspaper of their choice.
Seek employment with foreign companies on the island.
Choose a physician or hospital as they wish.
Access the Internet like other free citizens of the Hemisphere can.
When is it going to stop being a crime to be an independent librarian, a person of conscience, a human rights advocate?
(And you really think that the dictatorship of Cuba is just going to allow all of that?)
When will the regime stop making arrests for the crime of “dangerousness” – a category so vague that a person can be determined to be a criminal simply for the way he or she looks? When will racial inequality end?
(Well, that's what a dictatorship does to keep itself in power, Carlos. These rhetorical questions are of absolutely no effect on the dictatorship, for you to know, what about some real tangible policy, like allowing the exiles to arm themselves and train to topple the tyranny? What about dropping the Khrushev-Kennedy secret pact, what about decapitating the tyranny? It has been done with Granada and Panama, Haiti and Santo Domingo, but nothing of the sort has been done in favor of the Cuban people, the closest movement was to abandon the 2506 and the fighters of the Escambray to their own resources)
It is clear that the restrictions imposed on the Cuban people by the regime have nothing to do with the U.S. embargo or other U.S. policies. They have everything to do with the oppressive Castro regime.
(and what are you doing to ease those restrictions? you are contributing to them by forbidding a free flow of cash, assistance, visits, etc. Those break the yoke of economic dependence to the tyranny, and break the concept of socialization of misery, they would make Cubans free economically from the tyranny, but hello.... nobody sees that!)
It is ironic that some voices denounce the labor standards of pending FTA countries, while simultaneously calling for the U.S. to engage with Cuba—the Hemisphere’s greatest violator of labor rights, and also the right of all of its citizens.
(did you tell that to the Governors, Senators, Representatives, industrialists, farmers, and business people of the States engaged in commercial exchange with Cuba)
The Administration’s position has been unfailingly clear and consistent. Unless the regime changes, our policy will not. We are prepared to respond to genuine democratic change in Cuba.
(again, do you think that the regime is going to change under the present conditions, just because?)
The succession from Fidel to Raul is preservation of a dictatorship. The Cuban people deserve to freely elect their leaders. Like their neighbors throughout Latin America, they deserve the opportunity to take charge of their own destiny.
(Carlos, seriously, that's known. I think that your audience knew that, but it will not happen out of the goodness of their putrid dark hearts, please....Look at the free elections "won" by Chavez!)
We recognize that the future of Cuba is in the hands of the citizens in Cuba. Now it is time for the Cuban government to recognize this. The regime needs to have a dialogue with the Cuban people before it has one with the United States.
(the problems are that you do not understand that the Cuban government does not need to recognize anything, they do not want to have a dialogue with the Cuban citizenry, they do fabricate those dialogues and feed them to the American -and global- public through the American press corps, so everybody believes that the Cuban people "supports" the tyranny, interestingly enough, you seem to have forgotten to include the Cuban exiles in the future of Cuba. Let's see how you explain that, oh you don't explain that at all!)
We stand ready to help the people of Cuba make a transition to a representative democracy. We stand ready to help the Cuban people establish a free market economy. We stand ready to welcome them into the community of democracies.
(And please, let me know exactly how you plan to do that..... and who will be your interlocutor in Cuba, some excommie? Carlos you're doing a great job in washing the hands of the American government in any matter concerning and regarding Cuba, Pilates. The American government has been playing "wait and see" for half a century already and this speech shows no signs that it's ever going to change)
This is the complete official text of his intervention.
The theme was “Cuba at a Crossroads” and Gutierrez gave his views as the co-chair of the Commission for Assistance to a Free Cuba, plus the official Administration’s perspective on Cuba.
So, this guy is the co-chair for that famous commission for a free Cuba, which has done absofuckinglutely nothing of value for a free Cuba, those are the same guys who are telling W that my five dollars to my old nanny support Castro while the business done by 34 States of the Union in Cuba apparently have given both castro's their cancers. I would love to know how many people in said commission know people in Cuba or have contacts of any value in Cuba. I would love to know with how many common Cubans do they talk and how many people can they say that trust them in Cuba. What was the last time that they suffered in their own flesh the conditions of life in Cuba? or when were they jailed for speaking their minds in Cuba?
He said that he returned yestarday from a trip to Peru, Colombi and Panama and everything is great and rosy, down there, specially that the paramilitary in Columbia is back to the herd and that there's prosperity and so on and so forth.
What are you asking?
Did he mention Evo and Chavez, and the rise of the left in Latin America?
No, he didn't mention that. Apparently he didn't notice all that brouhaha.
He's the only one I know who find Latin America marching towards democracy and economic freedom. I thought that we were witnessing the forces of communism taking one by one the countries of Latin America. He recognizes though that Cuba is not marching towards freedom and democracy, but hey, that's been happenign for the last fifty years, high time someone noticed.
Let's see what he said:
"In Cuba people remain repressed; the economy remains closed and doors remain tightly shut, shackled by a repressive Communist system.
Cuba is the human rights travesty of the Hemisphere."
And after this very significative two sentences he goes again into businesses in Latin America, and their supposed prosperity and democracy with no mentions of the dangers of chavo-communism, the pressence of Russia and China, the presence of Iran and the influence of anti-American outfits such as Al-Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah in Latin America. He's not reading enough KillCastro lately, I think.
After a tirade of significant lenght about on the subject, he goes into the meaning of W's trips in the region.
Needless to say, we have evidence in everyday's Latin American papers that the Western Hemisphere is nowhere in the sights of the White House, otherwise the red tsunami flooding the Latin American region would simply not be happening.
But apparently he sees the light and says:
"There is a competing vision. One that:
Spreads poverty, not prosperity.
Empowers governments, not people.
Discourages creativity, individualism, free-speech, and free markets.
Over the past decades, the Western Hemisphere has moved forward economically and politically. Under the Castro dictatorship, however, Cuba has moved backward.
When the subject of Cuba comes up, the question I’m often asked is this: has the U.S. embargo has worked? My answer is an emphatic yes."
(sorry, what the hell? what embargo Carlos? give me a break here, the whole damn world deals with Cuba, and as I said before a slew of States of the American Union too. And the guy's obtaining even more money than ever from other sources, especially from the clients of the Lourdes Electronic Surveillance and Monitoring facility, namely Russia, China, and Iran!
Didn't you hear that the Pentagon was hacked by the Chinese Army? And you think that they did that from Beijing, right? It has worked and the castros have been able to maintain their grip for fifty years? Then it has worked in keeping the kasstro's in power, Mr. Secretary)
And he goes:
"The embargo has denied Castro resources:
Denied him funds to export his so-called “Revolution.”
Think about the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. . . or Angola, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Grenada in the 1980s.
When the Castro regime has had resources, it hasn’t benefited Cubans, but has been an international threat and a threat to its own citizens. The embargo has denied Castro the resources to do damage to this country and other countries in the world."
(of course, Carlos doesn't know that Daniel Ortega is back in business, and that Evo and el Chavo are there because Kasstro put them there, he doesn't know about the turmoil in Ecuador, Peru, and Colombia, and he has no idea that the President of Argentina is a che lover lefty, and that the alcoholic Lula is another lefty)
Whenever he has more resources, the Cuban people haven’t benefited. Only Castro, his cronies, the Cuban military and foreign Communist guerrillas have benefited.
(and you're telling me that this situation is no more? I think that they are benefiting today more than ever. Look around, Carlitos, with eyes wide open, and tell me how the so called embargo has improved the lives of the Cuban people or their chances to gain freedom..... )
Imagine what he and his brother would have done with greater resources?
(They have done enough damage as is, and instead of one embargo a measly missile could have taken them out in one of those chances when they were together, at a low cost in lives, in money, and energies is there were any serious intention of helping the Cuban people to be free)
President Bush is determined to keep the policy in place and to continue to take initiatives to hasten the Cuban people’s day of freedom.
(I guess that the "policy" is the Dry Foot Wet Foot, the limitation on cash and remitances, and the limits in family contacts. Besides, none of those has a thing to do with the embargo)
Our focus must remain on the plight of the Cuban people. This is why the United States authorizes humanitarian donations that reach the Cuban people. Our nation is the largest source of such help.
(what about the help that Cubans in the United States can give their family members? Isn't that help very important? What about the help to dissidents, and the contacts with people in the island, aren't those humanitarian too? How humanitarian is that the Cuban family has been divided by castro and and top of that the American government regulates who is my family contrary to the Cuban customs and traditions? How humanitarian is to limit family visits and to limit cash remitances, why to have more restrictions on top of the restrictions already imposed by the tyranny?)
This is not about U.S. policy—this is about Cuban policy—about the Cuban regime’s treatment of its own people.
(and what exactly is being done to eliminate that abusive regime?)
When will the Cuban people be free to:
Travel abroad and internally.
Change jobs and create independent businesses of their choice.
Choose the education they want for their children.
Visit any hotels or resorts or other tourist areas they wish in their own country.
Watch and listen to independent, uncensored television and radio stations.
Read any book, magazine or newspaper of their choice.
Seek employment with foreign companies on the island.
Choose a physician or hospital as they wish.
Access the Internet like other free citizens of the Hemisphere can.
When is it going to stop being a crime to be an independent librarian, a person of conscience, a human rights advocate?
(And you really think that the dictatorship of Cuba is just going to allow all of that?)
When will the regime stop making arrests for the crime of “dangerousness” – a category so vague that a person can be determined to be a criminal simply for the way he or she looks? When will racial inequality end?
(Well, that's what a dictatorship does to keep itself in power, Carlos. These rhetorical questions are of absolutely no effect on the dictatorship, for you to know, what about some real tangible policy, like allowing the exiles to arm themselves and train to topple the tyranny? What about dropping the Khrushev-Kennedy secret pact, what about decapitating the tyranny? It has been done with Granada and Panama, Haiti and Santo Domingo, but nothing of the sort has been done in favor of the Cuban people, the closest movement was to abandon the 2506 and the fighters of the Escambray to their own resources)
It is clear that the restrictions imposed on the Cuban people by the regime have nothing to do with the U.S. embargo or other U.S. policies. They have everything to do with the oppressive Castro regime.
(and what are you doing to ease those restrictions? you are contributing to them by forbidding a free flow of cash, assistance, visits, etc. Those break the yoke of economic dependence to the tyranny, and break the concept of socialization of misery, they would make Cubans free economically from the tyranny, but hello.... nobody sees that!)
It is ironic that some voices denounce the labor standards of pending FTA countries, while simultaneously calling for the U.S. to engage with Cuba—the Hemisphere’s greatest violator of labor rights, and also the right of all of its citizens.
(did you tell that to the Governors, Senators, Representatives, industrialists, farmers, and business people of the States engaged in commercial exchange with Cuba)
The Administration’s position has been unfailingly clear and consistent. Unless the regime changes, our policy will not. We are prepared to respond to genuine democratic change in Cuba.
(again, do you think that the regime is going to change under the present conditions, just because?)
The succession from Fidel to Raul is preservation of a dictatorship. The Cuban people deserve to freely elect their leaders. Like their neighbors throughout Latin America, they deserve the opportunity to take charge of their own destiny.
(Carlos, seriously, that's known. I think that your audience knew that, but it will not happen out of the goodness of their putrid dark hearts, please....Look at the free elections "won" by Chavez!)
We recognize that the future of Cuba is in the hands of the citizens in Cuba. Now it is time for the Cuban government to recognize this. The regime needs to have a dialogue with the Cuban people before it has one with the United States.
(the problems are that you do not understand that the Cuban government does not need to recognize anything, they do not want to have a dialogue with the Cuban citizenry, they do fabricate those dialogues and feed them to the American -and global- public through the American press corps, so everybody believes that the Cuban people "supports" the tyranny, interestingly enough, you seem to have forgotten to include the Cuban exiles in the future of Cuba. Let's see how you explain that, oh you don't explain that at all!)
We stand ready to help the people of Cuba make a transition to a representative democracy. We stand ready to help the Cuban people establish a free market economy. We stand ready to welcome them into the community of democracies.
(And please, let me know exactly how you plan to do that..... and who will be your interlocutor in Cuba, some excommie? Carlos you're doing a great job in washing the hands of the American government in any matter concerning and regarding Cuba, Pilates. The American government has been playing "wait and see" for half a century already and this speech shows no signs that it's ever going to change)
This is the complete official text of his intervention.
1 Comments:
The embargo has worked, what planet are these people living in?
they/he are removed so far from the Cuban reality, they wouldn't know it if it hit them in the face, come on Gutierrez get real, South America is oh so stable, yeah right, I tell ya Charlie, if we keep waiting for these asses to help our Cuba we are indeed fucked
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