What type of Cuban are you?
We have been recently been accused of patting our own backs for reminding people that we broke very relevant & relievable news regarding KaSStro’s illness while phone calls were coming in from those with a LOT less information about what is going on in Kuba calling and telling us THE BEAST WAS DEAD.
He wasn’t!
Within 5 minutes of brouhaha en la Calle 8 (and always in front of the Versailles restaurant, for some estrange coincidence) we could ABSOLUTELY confirm he was FUCKED UP but alive.
This took a special twist right before KaSStro made his appearance in Argentina. Miami was abuzz with the fact EL SUMO HIJO DE PUTA was dead; we on the other hand had verify by first hand accounts he was not dead. Both CB’s and my sources saw him (not a double ... it is easy to spot the doubles now a days, they are all a lot younger than KaSStro! My sources saw him at the MINREX and were about 2 feet from him. CB’s sources also confirmed seeing him at some government edifice.
Still, this Miamian clung to the rumor
The funny part of this is that the accuser of “patting our own backs” is someone who regularly calls us to verify if a particular rumor in Miami may or may not be true.
“Are you SURE he is NOT dead?”
“No he is NOT dead”
“Are you positive?”
“GO FUCK YOURSELF, get your own sources”
“NO HE IS NOT ... He is in terrible shape because we have known for AGES he HAS cancer “The knowledge of KaSStro’s cancer is as well known within Kuba as it is the fact that you don’t drink milk after 7 years old.
In fact Cubans in the island (specially those in the medical profession) know his first cancer treatment was done in Egypt and THAT fact well preceded any BLOGs or so called “pundits” throwing facile little accusations because their only source of REAL information about Cuba, is always 3rd hand.
Damn it has to be a bitch to be considered an expert on a matter you know so little about.
And this brings me to a fact that a few non-Cubans realize . There are at least TWO types of Cubans in the USA who are opposed to KaSStro’s regime of death .
Those who view Cuba through the eyes of their parents, parents in law, Aunt Cuca etc. Or those who bang their chest and claim that the nephew of the second husband of an aunt was at Giron , and THAT must account for “something” . Well, errr .. nope it doesn’t . You are still an American-Cuban and have no extra brownie points. GET OVER IT!
This group left way too early and left behind no ties to the island . You really can not blame them for knowing so little about their area of expertise . These people will, without an ounce of remorse or even truth call Cuba
“… a country that only has to offer “whores, beaches and rum”
And why would someone who is supposed to be a patriot speak so demeaningly of the same country of which they spends so much energy reporting about?
Well, that is an interesting and somewhat difficult question to answer but here’s MY theory.
To these Cubans, the island in 2006 is a foreign place!. It has been infected by 47 years of “revolution” , no Cuban in the island is to be trusted, they are stupid lazy and most probably corrupt.
These Cubans who se vehemently SCREAM that Cubans should REVOLT, couldn’t find their way to the Calzada Tunnel with Google Earth map . To these Cubans, Cuba is the country their parents left. Yes they are anti-KaSStro, but they are also resentful of the inhabitants of the island. Imagine THAT. Fight for the liberation of a country but condemn 12 million of its inhabitants as enablers. What a brain on ya Skippy!
I saw an interesting documentary the other day; A 1950s tourist promo piece for Cuba.
Very nostalgic,(this seems to be a VERY popular word amongst Miamians) very painful seeing the beauty of our country, especially the beauty of La Habana vis-a-vis La Habana today. Those who were there THEN and have been there NOW , can even tell the difference as far as how the country smells!
The documentary left nothing untouched. From Cuba’s incredible soil where ANYTHING used to grow, to the glamour and beauty of its women.
The “Paris of the Caribbean”.
Yes Cubans had it all, not any different than Americans have it all. If it was within your financial means you HAD IT! You could have a brand new Cadillac or a 10 year old Peugeot. You could buy at EL ENCANTO and wear Chrsitian Dior or buy at La Manzana de Gomez and buy some knock off.
As far as medicine, sanitation, infrastructure, communications etc , Cuba had NOT a thing to envy the USA . Indeed it was a “tacita de oro” that KaSStro took over and shattered into a zillion pieces. BUT , it was by no means a PERFECT society !
As you watch this documentary with the eye of someone who lived 14 years under KaSStro’s yoke you realize something VERY peculiar.
There were NO blacks in this tourist promo piece!
Where were they ? I mean , I know my next door neighborhood in Cuba was black! One of our most revered heroes was black , so where are they in this piece promoting the beauty of the island ?
I mean NOT one. Not waiting for one of the brand new Leyland A/C buses, or shopping at the Casalta supermarket, or even working at a Cigar factory ! . If you replay this a few times you DO see a VERY light mulatto man, rolling some “tabacos” on a far corner of the shot, but that was THAT!.
Safe country my tourist friends no pesky negroes to worry about.
Of course this is the 1950s and the promo was geared to the USA and we ALL know how racial relations went about in the USA in the 1950s.
Anyone who REALLY knows Cuba, knows it was a melting pot. My father’s boss at the Cuban telephone Company was a black man and my dad was a class “A” (the equivalent of an IEEE in the USA) electrical engineer.
So what we have here is a view of Cuba that has been tainted by nostalgia. A tourism promo piece is trying to depict an idealized picture of what we were, and that folks is just NOT the way it was.
But, somehow that promo piece was the REAL Cuba to a LOT of those who left the island in the early 60s, While the Cuba of 2006 is only “whores, beaches and rum”
As you can tell, we have VERY distinct and opposites views of what Cuba was and is!
Unfortunately for those who long for the Cuba that KaSStro destroyed, that place does not exist and to your utter shame, your reluctance to portrait the real Cuba in the 1950s, that Cuba with all the flavor, the noise , the “chancletras”, El Barrio de Colon, the guys selling lottery tickets on each corner, YOUR failure to admit or even to accept our shortcomings and do something about those less fortunate than you, brought about 47 years of torment. POPULISM my friend!. Your dear old dad made this possible.
Yes, you left early and you left with Benny More, Celia Cruz & TROPICANA buzzing in your ears but you forgot about a huge side of Cuba and that side my friend is the BIGGEST part of Cuba now.
So what is YOUR position now?
Well naturally you will gravitate to those that share your bipolar views of Cuba . You want a free Cuba, but FUCK all those who remained behind! Those are NOT MY Cubans, those are the devil’s spawn.
While the devil’s spawn is trying to “resolver” a god damn egg, you are hobnobbing with those politicos who left just around the same time you did. All of them of privileged classes, good families, dynasties (Yes we DID have privileged classes and we did have poor people, but somehow EVERYONE lived!).
You get invited to luncheons and dinners to discuss Cuba’s future, and you know NOTHING about the Cuba you will find when and if you land there now.
Even the language has changed. You will hate these Cubans because 47 years of indoctrinations has fucked up their views of the real world just as much as 47 years of good living has fucked up YOUR views of what Cuba was and IS.
KaSStro is dying, it is just a matter of time. After he does, we will find ourselves in a political battle . Nothing bloody mind you, just those who are still living in 1959 and those who bear the scars of 47 years of atrocities.
I imagine we will wind up with two main political parties. Hopefully we HAVE learned that 30 political parties will invariable lead you into the dictatorship of some prick who just happens to play better chess than you do.
So here I am exposing our DIRTY LAUNDRY because it is better to do it now. Guerra avisada no mata soldados , my mom used to say and that is what I am doing.
I do NOT dislike those who looked at Cuba through a time machine, I feel sorry for them because the day KaSStro is gone their lives will stop. This HOBBY they have found will need to be replaced with something else. YOU are NOT welcomed in Cuba , so if there are ANY delusions of political or financial clout. FORGET IT.
I am sorry man , but YOU will not be a figure of any importance in Cuba, nor will your politico buddies. Your :
“Cuba is only good for whores, beaches and rum”
will hunt you till the day you die and those who are seeking your “expert knowledge right now, will turn tail faster than you can say “bipolar” when they realize that your whole history of anti-KaSStrism , has a lot more to do with that your folks left behind than it does with giving Cubans IN THE island a free country.
And now I am going to PAT OUR BACKS again.. the next post is about Mirta Diaz-Balart and the REAL reason she is in KUBA.
He wasn’t!
Within 5 minutes of brouhaha en la Calle 8 (and always in front of the Versailles restaurant, for some estrange coincidence) we could ABSOLUTELY confirm he was FUCKED UP but alive.
This took a special twist right before KaSStro made his appearance in Argentina. Miami was abuzz with the fact EL SUMO HIJO DE PUTA was dead; we on the other hand had verify by first hand accounts he was not dead. Both CB’s and my sources saw him (not a double ... it is easy to spot the doubles now a days, they are all a lot younger than KaSStro! My sources saw him at the MINREX and were about 2 feet from him. CB’s sources also confirmed seeing him at some government edifice.
Still, this Miamian clung to the rumor
The funny part of this is that the accuser of “patting our own backs” is someone who regularly calls us to verify if a particular rumor in Miami may or may not be true.
“Are you SURE he is NOT dead?”
“No he is NOT dead”
“Are you positive?”
“GO FUCK YOURSELF, get your own sources”
“NO HE IS NOT ... He is in terrible shape because we have known for AGES he HAS cancer “The knowledge of KaSStro’s cancer is as well known within Kuba as it is the fact that you don’t drink milk after 7 years old.
In fact Cubans in the island (specially those in the medical profession) know his first cancer treatment was done in Egypt and THAT fact well preceded any BLOGs or so called “pundits” throwing facile little accusations because their only source of REAL information about Cuba, is always 3rd hand.
Damn it has to be a bitch to be considered an expert on a matter you know so little about.
And this brings me to a fact that a few non-Cubans realize . There are at least TWO types of Cubans in the USA who are opposed to KaSStro’s regime of death .
Those who view Cuba through the eyes of their parents, parents in law, Aunt Cuca etc. Or those who bang their chest and claim that the nephew of the second husband of an aunt was at Giron , and THAT must account for “something” . Well, errr .. nope it doesn’t . You are still an American-Cuban and have no extra brownie points. GET OVER IT!
This group left way too early and left behind no ties to the island . You really can not blame them for knowing so little about their area of expertise . These people will, without an ounce of remorse or even truth call Cuba
“… a country that only has to offer “whores, beaches and rum”
And why would someone who is supposed to be a patriot speak so demeaningly of the same country of which they spends so much energy reporting about?
Well, that is an interesting and somewhat difficult question to answer but here’s MY theory.
To these Cubans, the island in 2006 is a foreign place!. It has been infected by 47 years of “revolution” , no Cuban in the island is to be trusted, they are stupid lazy and most probably corrupt.
These Cubans who se vehemently SCREAM that Cubans should REVOLT, couldn’t find their way to the Calzada Tunnel with Google Earth map . To these Cubans, Cuba is the country their parents left. Yes they are anti-KaSStro, but they are also resentful of the inhabitants of the island. Imagine THAT. Fight for the liberation of a country but condemn 12 million of its inhabitants as enablers. What a brain on ya Skippy!
I saw an interesting documentary the other day; A 1950s tourist promo piece for Cuba.
Very nostalgic,(this seems to be a VERY popular word amongst Miamians) very painful seeing the beauty of our country, especially the beauty of La Habana vis-a-vis La Habana today. Those who were there THEN and have been there NOW , can even tell the difference as far as how the country smells!
The documentary left nothing untouched. From Cuba’s incredible soil where ANYTHING used to grow, to the glamour and beauty of its women.
The “Paris of the Caribbean”.
Yes Cubans had it all, not any different than Americans have it all. If it was within your financial means you HAD IT! You could have a brand new Cadillac or a 10 year old Peugeot. You could buy at EL ENCANTO and wear Chrsitian Dior or buy at La Manzana de Gomez and buy some knock off.
As far as medicine, sanitation, infrastructure, communications etc , Cuba had NOT a thing to envy the USA . Indeed it was a “tacita de oro” that KaSStro took over and shattered into a zillion pieces. BUT , it was by no means a PERFECT society !
As you watch this documentary with the eye of someone who lived 14 years under KaSStro’s yoke you realize something VERY peculiar.
There were NO blacks in this tourist promo piece!
Where were they ? I mean , I know my next door neighborhood in Cuba was black! One of our most revered heroes was black , so where are they in this piece promoting the beauty of the island ?
I mean NOT one. Not waiting for one of the brand new Leyland A/C buses, or shopping at the Casalta supermarket, or even working at a Cigar factory ! . If you replay this a few times you DO see a VERY light mulatto man, rolling some “tabacos” on a far corner of the shot, but that was THAT!.
Safe country my tourist friends no pesky negroes to worry about.
Of course this is the 1950s and the promo was geared to the USA and we ALL know how racial relations went about in the USA in the 1950s.
Anyone who REALLY knows Cuba, knows it was a melting pot. My father’s boss at the Cuban telephone Company was a black man and my dad was a class “A” (the equivalent of an IEEE in the USA) electrical engineer.
So what we have here is a view of Cuba that has been tainted by nostalgia. A tourism promo piece is trying to depict an idealized picture of what we were, and that folks is just NOT the way it was.
But, somehow that promo piece was the REAL Cuba to a LOT of those who left the island in the early 60s, While the Cuba of 2006 is only “whores, beaches and rum”
As you can tell, we have VERY distinct and opposites views of what Cuba was and is!
Unfortunately for those who long for the Cuba that KaSStro destroyed, that place does not exist and to your utter shame, your reluctance to portrait the real Cuba in the 1950s, that Cuba with all the flavor, the noise , the “chancletras”, El Barrio de Colon, the guys selling lottery tickets on each corner, YOUR failure to admit or even to accept our shortcomings and do something about those less fortunate than you, brought about 47 years of torment. POPULISM my friend!. Your dear old dad made this possible.
Yes, you left early and you left with Benny More, Celia Cruz & TROPICANA buzzing in your ears but you forgot about a huge side of Cuba and that side my friend is the BIGGEST part of Cuba now.
So what is YOUR position now?
Well naturally you will gravitate to those that share your bipolar views of Cuba . You want a free Cuba, but FUCK all those who remained behind! Those are NOT MY Cubans, those are the devil’s spawn.
While the devil’s spawn is trying to “resolver” a god damn egg, you are hobnobbing with those politicos who left just around the same time you did. All of them of privileged classes, good families, dynasties (Yes we DID have privileged classes and we did have poor people, but somehow EVERYONE lived!).
You get invited to luncheons and dinners to discuss Cuba’s future, and you know NOTHING about the Cuba you will find when and if you land there now.
Even the language has changed. You will hate these Cubans because 47 years of indoctrinations has fucked up their views of the real world just as much as 47 years of good living has fucked up YOUR views of what Cuba was and IS.
KaSStro is dying, it is just a matter of time. After he does, we will find ourselves in a political battle . Nothing bloody mind you, just those who are still living in 1959 and those who bear the scars of 47 years of atrocities.
I imagine we will wind up with two main political parties. Hopefully we HAVE learned that 30 political parties will invariable lead you into the dictatorship of some prick who just happens to play better chess than you do.
So here I am exposing our DIRTY LAUNDRY because it is better to do it now. Guerra avisada no mata soldados , my mom used to say and that is what I am doing.
I do NOT dislike those who looked at Cuba through a time machine, I feel sorry for them because the day KaSStro is gone their lives will stop. This HOBBY they have found will need to be replaced with something else. YOU are NOT welcomed in Cuba , so if there are ANY delusions of political or financial clout. FORGET IT.
I am sorry man , but YOU will not be a figure of any importance in Cuba, nor will your politico buddies. Your :
“Cuba is only good for whores, beaches and rum”
will hunt you till the day you die and those who are seeking your “expert knowledge right now, will turn tail faster than you can say “bipolar” when they realize that your whole history of anti-KaSStrism , has a lot more to do with that your folks left behind than it does with giving Cubans IN THE island a free country.
And now I am going to PAT OUR BACKS again.. the next post is about Mirta Diaz-Balart and the REAL reason she is in KUBA.
31 Comments:
te la comiste!
as a non cuban i can't judge anyone that suffered for his country, nor i can condemn nobody for what he feel in his heart.
I can only say that i know the today Cuba, and that i noticed how "unreal" are the visions of those who never lived "under castro"; it's a matter of "first person" experience, that bring me to love THE TODAY PEOPLE, not the before'59 island; i want give hugs to MY FRIENDS on the island, make them happy, bring them some sign of amistad, something that is very different for someone that just "hate castroites", without distinction.
You sadly went hard saying that "YOU are NOT welcomed in Cuba", but i KNOW that is true, because i know the TODAY Cuba.
Hecha de gente buena, digna, asi dulce y carinosa que no puedo soportar el maltrato que reciben cada dia CADAUNO de ellos, tambien los que son obligados a la mentiras y al descaro, que pero no va a soportar cabrones de ninguna raza que que le vaya a decir como pensar y actuar. Por eso el "regreso" de los que jamas salieron debe ser TODAVIA MAS RESPECTUOSO de los que salieron llorando; solo asi se le abriran las puertas de esta isla buena y digna.
Ma da tristeza que esa division entre cubanos del exilio pueda agravar y posiblemente envenenar la proxima victoria, pero es importante AHORA empiezar a pensar en el futuro con realismo y humanedad, sin prejudicios, sentimentos de venganza o prepotencia.
Ojala'.
Que nazca pronto una nueva Cuba de todos los cubanos.
Te la comiste ... Eres un Leon
A moving expression, unlike any that I have seen or heard, depicting the "Cuban" reality within the context the 52 year tragedy that has befallen our land and society. As one of the "early" ones, I stand in support of you my brother.
Que bueno esta este comentario. Tienes mucha razon. Nobody knows who will be the new power brokers in the New Republic. No van a ser los Miamenses ni los bolcheviques. I have come to know for a while now.
Asha:
So do I. I hoped we could reconcile the chasm of 47 years of rock throwing. Unfortunately for Cubans in the island their communication refuting any misconceptions that *WE* in the USA may have regarding their abilities , strength of character and SHEER COJONES can not be bidirectional.
They MUST wait for an official response from THE PARTY! So the only hope a Cuban in the Island has is bestowed on people like you, who meet them IN PERSON. You hug them, you share, you know that behind the pain, there is still a sense of pride and honor. They do not ask for much, perhaps a little understanding from those on THIS side of the "charco"
But as they embrace Italians, and Spaniards and Dutch they are TOTALLY suspicious of Miamians. Why? I don’t think there’s any need to explain THAT.
I have personally felt the HATE of at least one Miamian towards anything to do with Cuba post-KaSStro. It took me by surprise, it was unprecedented in vitriolic insults and threats. MY sin ? I was going back to see my family after 32 years.
Cuban-Americans have VERY seldom humbled themselves and admitted that the HEROES of dethroning KaSStro were those left behind.
The stupid, the jinetera, the lazy, the coward who would not REVOLT.
And as you, I go there with my material possession and within 10 minutes I realize how meaningless it all is. How much work needs to be done, how many bridges need to be repaired, both physically and emotionally.
But those Cubans,( perhaps some reading this BLOG as they stayed behind at some government office until the time was safe enough to come out from under the desk and READ how WE feel about them )
Those Cubans will repay with exactly the same currency we have been throwing at them.
Oratory, promises, insults, inhumane policies and NOW that the corpse is beginning to smell they see the buzzards circling in. The old DYNASTIES re-uniting. Does anyone for a second think that Cubans do NOT know what the fuck is happening between Mirta Diaz-Balart and the rest of his political relatives in the USA?. Oh, they know.!
There IS a chance Asha and it requires for a LOT of Cubans in the USA, to eat some humble pie, look south and thank THOSE souls for maintaining the light on, however dim & intermittent but there is a STILL a land we could ALL return to!
If we only THANKED THEM as opposed to cursing them.
So as CB has a way of doing I’ll quote one of my FAVORITE philosophical lines of any song I know.
“And in the end, the love you TAKE is equal to the love … you MAKE”
CB I got a question for you,
What do Shakespeare or Abraham Lincoln
have to do with a Post- Castro Cuba...
The Cuban issue is more complicated
than we think. The death of Fidel
Castro will not solve ANY of our
problems. On the contrary, It would
expose us and
make us more divided unless we quickly
build a " master plan " that would
have the blessings of cuban exiles
and those inside the island.
Divide and conquer, "Killcastro." You have accomplished your prime directive.
perhaps, one day, youll grow some fucking balls and let your audience know your real name. unless, of course, it may "cause ramifications!"
"A War Blog' los primeros en meterle miedo a todo el mundo.
congratulations guys, you just single handedly ruined three years of work out of spite and envy.
ñangaras.
Who de f.... this guy thinks he is..
This is getting ridiculo ya...
and Now my e mail has been compromised
Why? If all I have done since the
begining of the year, when i really
got involved in this things was to
send you info out of the blue for
you to use at your expense..
5 months before i got my blog started..
what did i Get in return after
sending hundreds of e mail , one
lousy H/T ....Also , I have send you e mails with suggestions, questions, NEVER GOT ONE ANSWER, is That team work,
my friend? I hope you reconsider
blocking my e mail. Spread your
wealth my friend... we are all in
this together....
VIVA CUBA LIBRE Y ABAJO FIDEL COÑO.
I got nothing against you personally
I KNOW YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB ...
but can do much better ... UNITED....
Your TRUE colors are showing Mr. Prieto - you of the "I wish Castro died everyday because I had 6,000 hits today"
FUCK CUBA man *I* had 6,000 HITS!
How did we destroy 3 years of YOUR work in one post? Was your work THAT FUCKING WEAK?! Just calling it like it is crumbles your little sand castle?
Oh, baby hurt not enough ass kissing in Miami?
And YOU know my name and you well know why It is not public knowledge (because WE HAVE people in CUBA, who we care about and CAN be compromised, something you know NOTHING about!) Now, you CAN as you please pass my name to the public, I wouldn’t expect anything less from you! Your email brain-fart already made public knowledge of about 100 private email addresses of anti-KaSStro individuals
We have dealt with enough shit from you and your overly egotistical Mr. Cuba self imposed role. Of course, your very mature and intelligent retort is calling US ñangaras. You are laughable!
As far as spite and envy.. This is YOUR reasonable and intelligent assessment? Did you arrive at this AFTER I refused to be a regular contributor to YOUR blog?
There you have it folks – the LIBERATOR!
Solimar -
All support is appreciated, all suggestions welcomed, all ideas and emails recive a private response. We are in the same barrio - this one is just one HUGE motherfucker!
Thanks.
Enrique:
I will give you three guesses as to he THINKS he is!
Oh! And you can SAY FUCK in here; it is not only allowed it is welcomed!
It makes the plagiarists job a little more difficult ;)
I am just guessing that by the end of
tommorrow nigth you will have 100
or more comments on this post.
I cant wait to see what el Mono has for
you tommorrow.
Same question, what type of Cuban are you?
Kill Castro's message to exiles, fuck you, castro's the man! After over a year of lobbying for what the beast really wants while hiding behind anti-castro skirts, you're coming out. Don't believe me? Do a check list and see whose side is represented here.
No limit on family remittance- check
End the embargo- gotta give fidel credit so US tax payers can get scrwed again. Check
No limit on visits- I'm a refugee fleeing tyranny- so as soon as I'm granted asylum, I want to go back...
Yes, this is my last comment at "kill castro"
I thought that your last post at KILLCASTRO was about a week ago when I told you to leave ME be and go your own way.
What was this? A request from Mr. Cuba to come HELP him out? OH Please!
But since you DID come back to post, at what point did you d0 this 180 on your views towards Cuba?
Pressure from The Miamians getting to you?
How can any intelligent person would come to YOUR sophomoric conclusions after reading anything that has been written here ?
That was rhetorical , no need to answer cause I TRUST you are a woman of your word and THIS WILL REALLY the LAST we hear from you!
Just to be clear on this issue. this is my personal opinion on the embargo...
I have always said
tighten the Embargo to the fullest even more
no food sales of any kind
no money sent by cuban americans of any kind
no medicine sales of any kind
no travel of any kind
fines to companies that deals with castro and the USA
No religious travel..of any kind
prison to people who go to cuba thru a third country
After all, Celia Cruz could not
bury her mother in Cuba, remember.
I dont think raul can survive one week of any kind
with a "real embargo" like the one I am proposing here ..
Nuff said
8/16/2006 3:45 PM
Enrique,
sorry that I hurt your feelings by not responding to the PLETHORA of emails you send on a daily basis.
"Killcastro but dont use my real name because i have people on the island that may lose the remittance checks",
All I can say is that you are a complete asshole and I suggest some therapy to get that "my mother didnt love me because she loved the revolution" chip off your shoulder.
I dont know about "types" of Cubans, but if there is such a thing, you are the definitely worse kind.
let me suggest a name change for this "blog" from killcastro - an obvious misnomer - to "We hate Miami cubans" or "Lets have our cake and eat it too."
You have acted here in public just like a CDR or a RRB with this acto de repudio. And this goes to prove that you simply dont want a free Cuba more than you want the limelight.
You have no dignity. You have no honor. You have, as clearly displayed on this post, only envy and hatred.
I will concentrate my efforts in denouncing the Castro regime until I see my Cuba Free .. I am a lone warrior and probably will remain that way after this bruhah.
" I act like a palestinian , waiting
for an opportunity to enter an Israeli
school full of beautiful children." I meant to say. I am most
effective when working Alone. I support Israel just in case.
This is a case closed for me now ..
Phew! Ladies! Gentlemen! Everybody - take a deep breath and drink some tilo...please settle down. As my good friend's Cuban father puts it: "A los cubanos se les puede reunir, no unir." Unfortunately, this seems evident given the previous exchanges and the tone of the "conversations."
We all have a right to our opinion and the right to express it by available means, as we wish. This is one of the beauties of living in this country, under its Constitution. Wish it would be like that in Cuba, someday.
All am gonna say is that when these disagreements become so vehement and public, the real enemy-kaSStro brothers (aka the real "Murder, Inc.") benefits.
So, let's talk and reason - and don't think I'm perfect and can't get crazy and vehement about some subjects, but, as my smart wife points out when I start losing it, "get off your attack mode, talk and think like a human being!"
Amen!
Having said that, just want to state, no finger pointing here, and respecting all opinions, that I believe there are many of us exiles who in fact have a "humble pie" attitude when it comes to our brethren in Cuba.
Yes, us "early ones" still have rose-colored memories...is that so bad? After all, Marti's symbol was "La Rosa Blanca." So I feel no guilt about rose-scented recollections. My dream is that the people of Cuba will someday be able to enjoy the same life we had - and in a perfect, or as perfect as can be achieved on earth - form, that is, with no discrimination as to gender, age, class, race, ethnicity, and religion, accompanied by social justice.
To put things in yet more perspective: The reason I have refused to return to Cuba since 1960 is because my family and I do NOT think Cuba is the land of rum, fun, and whores. On the contrary, the thought that so many do travel there for those reasons is sickening.
I/we won't travel to a place where I can't sit at the same table in a "tourist" restaurant with one of the locals, if I choose to do so...
My friend who traveled to his native Santiago de Cuba 3 years ago experienced an overwhelming sadness and depression - not having been back since 1960 - as he put it, "just from seeing the sad faces of the good people, witnessing their own depression, realizing I was a privileged character in their midst and yet could do so little for them." He spread some cash around and bought some needed medicines for family and family friends. Believe me, there was neither rancor nor thoughts of exploitation in his heart. In fact, he cut his trip short a week because he could not stand the depressive atmosphere.
For many of us, although speaking for myself, there is no thought of going back to a Cuba that is no more. But we would like the opportunity to help that long-suffering populace to build a new Cuba which will blend the best of the old with the best the future should bring.
Not all exiles left with the expectation of returning and recouping their materials goods - and, speaking for my family only, materialism was the last thing on my parents' mind when they decided to leave. The primary motivation was they did not want to give up parental rights over their children to a monstrous "father" who, as we know too well, did not have the best interests of Cuba's children in mind.
I tell you what we lost, and can NEVER be recovered: A host of warm, loving relationships and a social ambiance, a civility, which has not and cannot be duplicated. Some family members we never saw again - ditto with some friends and neighbors. Even if a new Cuban state would offer to restore everything we had lost - to the PESO - this would be meaningless and empty...material possessions and privileges will never bring back the family, friends, neighbors, acquaintances, in short, the whole social structure which kaSStro & co. fractured and destroyed, and which gave meaning and reason to our lives in Cuba. When I attempt in my poor way to recover memories, I am trying to recover memories of those relationships, and no more.
So the people of Cuba have nothing to fear from us...in fact, they may never see us in any case...it may be too painful to return and see ghosts of the past milling all around.
That's my 1-peso worth of commentary. Hope this did not piss anybody off...there are enough people out there already pissed off at me.
I agree with what Alberto has said.
I'm somewhat offended by what you post being that by default I'm included in your "bad Cubans" group. I am one of those "children" of the 1960 Cubans and NEVER have I heard in my household any of the things you accuse us of. NEVER.
On the contrary, all I ever heard was how they wanted their country to be free, so it could continue its course. My parents fully realized that Cuba would no longer be the same; that the Cubans of today were not the Cubans of yesterday.
My family left without any money and has never been back to Cuba. They will not give the bastard a single penny of theirs, b/c they lost much more than anything material.
KC, I can understand that there are Cubans like the ones you speak, but you CANNOT generalize. You cannot lump us all together without knowing who we are, what we want, what we think. I have to tell you, that what you are saying sounds eerily familiar to the bastards discourse of "la mafia de Miami".
Your strife is with particular people; not with all the Cuban exiles from the 1960s. It can't be, because you cannot know them all.
This name calling and division cannot be good.
I agree with what Alberto Quiroga and La Ventanita said. As a Cuban who left Cuba as a Pedro Pan when I was only 8 years old, I only want good things for all the people of Cuba. Just like we can't change anything that has happened over the last 47 years, we can't change some of the hurtful communications that have taken place here in the last day. But I strongly appeal to all of you who want freedom for Cuba to stop insulting each other from this minute forward. Let's focus our energy on bringing down the awful regime that enslaves our people. Each of us should do it as we see fit. Good people can disagree on the embargo, remesas, visas etc. but we all agree that after 47 years of oppression, Cubans should be free now!
I think some clarifications ARE in order here !
I LEFT IN 1967 AND I CONSIDER MYSELF ONE OF THE OLD CREW!
With that said, of course I did not mean that EVERY ONE of the first arrivals looks at Cubans in Cuba TODAY, as I have described. In fact it is a great minority, but a VOCAL minority. A minority that has gotten a platform. A minority that has called them, lazy stupid and cowardly for not revolting.
A minority who publicly states that the USA only thinks of Cuba as a land of whores, beaches and rum. And THAT gives KaSStro all the ammunition he will ever need, because statements like THAT make it to GRANMA and that message is getting to CUBANS.
Now the GREAT part of THAT minority can be found in MIAMI. So yeah I do have a GREAT deal of problems with the GUYABERAS , because their’s is NOT an agenda of liberation of Cuba but one of retaliation against the fact that they left for 6 months and have been in exile for 47 years.
AS far as MY history fighting KaSStro from whatever venue I could find , it goes back to 1978 and an organization named ABDALA - Now is there anyone here in 1978 doing ANYTHING against KaSStro?
Now why did I join an organization that was planning a military overthrow of KaSStro?
I am the first to admit I am a fucking coward. I LIKE being alive BUT , I had scores to settle with KaSStro a LOT more scores to settle than any of those petulant , psychotic little people who may say I have No HONOR! I EARNED my honor you PRICK! And I did it PERSONALLY!
I was a political prisoner at 12
I was beaten up, thrown in a cell full of shit and left there for 3 days to rot.
My CRIME? I laughed at a Vietnam documentary showing a barely standing HO-Chi-Min getting into a canoe with a fucking rifle ! I mean it was Chaplinesque I HAD TO LAUGH.
I was grabbed by my somewhat long hair and dragged all the way from the mezzanine of the METROPOLITAN movie theater and thrown in a military jeep. That began the 3 days of HELL.
So, you see I have suffered on my flesh what it is to be IN CUBA enduring that repression that inhumanity and longed for a voice from ANYWHERE who would give me some inspiration.
Now, my father was tortured in a concentration camp while waiting to leave the country An engineer cutting sugar cane and as the sweat and the sugar cane leaves cut his body and the sweat drenched every inch of him a plane with LYE would overflow them and disperse the powder on their semi naked bodies burning into to skin leaving holes half an inch deep. Can *I* take credit for THAT, Can I use my father’s suffering as a medal of honor ? FUCK NO!
I had an aunt who fought for EL MOVIMIENTO ESTUDIANTIL UNIVERSITARIO . On Jan 5 1959 she came into the house and in tears told us we had given the country to a fucking communist and THAT same night She and her boyfriend began their counter-revolution . I still remember guns and rifles under the bed.
Both of them were informed that they were going to be caught and tried to leave the country. My aunt did (and died in the USA 2 years after arriving at 28 years of age) her boyfriend was pulled from a different plane and was shot in a hanger at Jose Marti . The hanger is there and every time I have been back I have seen the spot and have remembered the bloody mess of his head, because YES they called the family to see the body! JUST TO TEACH US A LESSON!
So in 1978 I found the first group of Cuban in New York who wanted to do SOMETHING.
A lot of it was planning against hope because we knew the USA would give us NO help a lot of oratory, teachings about our past history and why we were where we were. I think I learned to be CUBAN with ABDALA.
In 1980 we finally had a chance to do something TANGIBLE when we were able to put up the telethon for the Mariel boat lift.
There I had the honor of meeting Celia Cruz who sat next to me answering phones and SHE told me something that has been by mantra ever since. “IT IS NOT ABOUT US IN HERE, IT IS ABOUT THOSE BACK THERE” and she pointed towards her back , those back there were the ones in Cuba , the ones who could NOT leave.
The help to the Mariel people was the biggest blow KaSStro could’ve receive, because we welcomed them with open arms. The few I met in NYC would just hug us and cry.
Old men crying like children , women kissing our hands , a child with an old teddy bear that he was able to bring with him and wanted US to see.
Those people are POWERFUL FUCKING IMAGES!
What I had left in 1967 was NOTHING to what these people had suffered by 1980 . NOTHING! It HUMBLED me; it humbled everyone who at that time was doing something for the people of Cuba.
What I have done or not since that time, is irrelevant because by the grace of the USA government there was not much to do. BUT, my family donated a LOT of money to Cuban Organizations in MIAMI and all we heard about was lunches, dinners, condecorations and blah-blah-blah. A virtual cornucopia of circle jerk.
And THAT turned me off to the whole MIAMI movement.
I saw the Marielitos busting their asses while the first wave fattened their stomachs, opened furniture stores and were renting apartments to Marielitos at 500% the going rate. NICE!
And again (because apparently one must post a disclaimer about every one of these statements) NOT ALL WERE LIKE THAT. But those at the TOP those considered the LEADERS of the anti-KaSStro movement WERE , and they were doing what in 1980 that changed a god damn thing for those left back in Cuba?. Oh, they were being groomed or grooming their children for political office in the USA!
When I went back to Cuba in 1999 it was for very personal family reasons. The FIRE had been replaced by the desire to live the American dream.
I had written of Cuba as a lost cause . I wasn’t planning on EVER going back . FUCK IT , what do I know anymore about THOSE people ! AND HERE LIES THE BIG ISSUE.
Going back made me hate the KaSStro dictatorship with a fervor I didn’t even have in 1978!. Because things were worse for the Cuban people! Multimillion dollars hotels were being built by European companies , the thing was that neither MY family or my friends were allowed in. When I left we were ALL fucked , when I went back the sheer humiliation of not being able to eat at a restaurant or stay at a hotel because you WERE Cuban just made my blood boil.
“Dejalo asi” my family said “
“No te fajes con esta gente”
My family said . but man you HAD to confront these pricks . These esbirros with their little badges telling my family YOU ARE NOT WELCOMED IN HERE!
And THERE was born KILLCASTRO and it is just not a BLOG or a nickname it is INDEED a group of young people IN CUBA doing counter-revolution. THAT is MY HONOR my PRIDE. The remittances to which Mr. Prieto so flippantly mentions go in great part to buy computer parts, black market internet connections etc.
I do NOT announce 80 million for the dissidents. I SEND $80 fucking dollars TO the dissidents.
Now, those dissident, the ones I know and the ones YOU ALL know, do read BLOGS and to them is a FUCKING INSULT and GOD DAMN SLAP IN THE FACE a petulant childish claim for ANYONE to wish that KaSStro died every day so his HIT count was greater. What fucking patriotism uh?
And with this I am gonna address Mr. Prieto’s insults, and I will try NOT to use the second grade infantile , semi literate language he used because folks this is NOT a smart man at ALL , in fact he is rather stupid . To insult ME by calling me a ñangara is to reach so deep in the barrel of idiocies it is laughable. To bring my families remittances into this is just plain inhumane. So I will let you come to your own conclusions.
I do NOT hate Miami Cubans you and I have a mutual acquaintance Val, who I have known for 40 years . He is a Marielito and I love him dearly. I have family in Miami most of them recent arrivals and I do not speak with them, why? Cause their motivation to come to the USA was (as they put it) economic.. So FUCK THEM and come back when you realize that your economic misfortunes have EVERYTHING to do with your SUMO HIJO DE PUTA.
You Val, I don’t hate. I really don’t think of you AT ALL. You are a “cero a la izquierda” to me. But you have become a voice and that voice carries responsibilities and you are showing NONE. Your views are insulting to those Cubans in the Island. Yeah those you do NOT give a FUCK ABOUT!
This may catch you by surprise but a lot of people feel this way. Your UTTER stupidity about that MASS email was echoed by a LOT of people, including some who contribute to your blog (and I wish they had the fortitude to admit it)
I think you are NOT an intelligent man. An intelligent man could’ve used a lot more arguments to make ME look bad , all you did was to show the readers you are a psychotic , bipolar man with delusions of grandeur.
The day KIllCastro went live you sent us an email calling us TRAITORS , why I wondered ah , because of the competition. That gave ME a pretty good idea of the kind of man YOU were.
I just saw a picture of you in drag. You are a clown. You have become a parody of yourself and you have just been at this for 3 years !
I have not once posted in your blog since KIllCastro has been up , and THAT is (believe or not) out of respect, because *I* unlike you know my boundaries and it is childish and divisive to go to someone house and shit on them. You seem to have no problem with that.
Perhaps it is YOU who is looking for the love of a mother who did not breast feed you enough.
At any rate, you mean NOTHING to me, your work is doing nothing for the cause of liberating Cuba and you are pretty much unanimously hated in Cuba by the ANTI-KASSTRO groups – So, in fact you are your own worst enemy.
Next time you throw a hissy-fit a la KaSStro maybe you should consult with some of your contributors who CAN express themselves in an intelligent, articulate,
Reasonable & cohesive ways. I have the outmost respect for George Moneo, Mora, and Ziva (yes Ziva I DO respect you profoundly)
In fact MOST of your contributors make you look like a 3rd grader writing in crayon.
And in closing let us NOT forget how many times you have thrown the towel in and once in writing and once over a phone call I had what I considered my duty to get you out of your maniac-depressive funk.
And with that Val, have a nice life
And for the other who took my dribble as an attack on ALL Cubans in Miami or those from the first wave, my apologies. It wasn’t my intention, well it was in a way. I was trying to make a POINT that:
“IT IS NOT ABOUT US IN HERE, IT IS ABOUT THOSE BACK THERE”
Folks believe this the 70's
1970-1980 was and will always be the worst decade ofcastro's comunism.
I was there as a teenager and still remember how bad things were before 1978 when the family reunification took place..
El Mariel gave me the opportunity to write this note today
Proud of it.
I was not going to comment, becasue but because I consider myself Cuban, whether born there or not, with that passion and defensiveness towards what I love, in this case my family, I have to speak my piece.
KC, and CB. All exiled cubans have their stories. I'm sorry you had to go through what you went through in your youth or after, but that does not make you any more a person than Val. You may not agree with him, and you may feel he threw stones, but not before you threw them first. I've gone back in your archives and his, and found several instances, all within the year that your site has been running, where you not only disagreed (which is fine, not everyone has the same opinion) but threw sarcastic "I know better than you" remarks. This is turning into a childish middle school game. You may have your sources, and your reasons, but my uncle, whether you believe it or not, fights this fight from his heart. You have absolutely no right to insult him or my family. You do not know our story, only what he's chosen to share. And, to clarify, he does not go seeking out the newspapers and radio stations, they contact him. They value his opinions, and I'm sure the other contributors, as well as our readers would agree that it is because his passion for Cuba, the love of land and family, wanting what is best for the island and her people, his honesty, is seen in his writings. (And FYI, he could care less about the site hits he gets) And while I'm on that, you mentioned in your post that he was quick to speculate that castro was dead, but let me remind you, and you can go back into his archives for the last month or so, that he repeatedly said "i'm taking the news with a grain of salt until we have official confirmation, until then we can only hope that it is true."
And as for your issues with the celebration at Versailles: are you not aware that we threw an unofficial party there when the Heat won, and when the Marlins won both times, and all other happy events?! It's simply a local gathering place, has nothing to do with whether castro was dead or not. The excitement was in seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak. In fact, many did not even believe he was sick, thought it was one of his occasional disappearing acts. And as for respecting the other contributors, I call bullshit, if you truly respected them, especially Ziva, who used to be, up until recently, one of your contributors, you would not have thrown all the insults you have until this point.
There is so much more I can say, but I really don't want to waste my time anymore with this. We all left high school a long time ago, and should be above these games.
My best to you, and may we get to see what we all want soon: A free Cuba.
Amanda:
I appreciate your candor but you are NOT the only family with UNTOLD stories, so let us get THAT one out of the way. I was talking about MY FLESH and the 4 inch scar I have on MY head!
Now, for what I read Mr., Prieto is your uncle so I REALLY could not expect any positive comments from you, but alas I think your comment was pretty damn fair.
The Versailles thing was an aside, just a comment it bore no particular relevance at all but you chose to make THAT a point of contention. YOUR PREROGATIVE!
Now, the part that IRRITATES ME is that you bother to go back through our posts but you missed your uncles declaration that he hoped Castro died every day because he had 6,000 hits the day THAT rumor took off.
How do you reconcile THAT statement in HIS blog as coming from someone who does NOT care about hits?
Again, I fully understand your position and I respect your restrain and maturity while defending your family.
Find the link and show me the quote. I'm sure you're taking it out of context. In fact, wouldn't you also be glad to have that kind of increase on your sitemeter the day the bastard dies?! All bloggers are enthusiastic when their sitemeters run up more than usual. That's a pretty trivial remark to hang onto.
Either way, I appreciate your (mostly) civil reply.
Sorry I was not planning on becoming your penpal.
You're the researcher .. you find it.
My civility has its limits.
Yes, your civilities ended a long time ago, apparently. I don't need a penpal. Again, I'm not in middle school, and I'm not the kind of person that needs my ego stroked. Your answer, or lack thereof, simply proves my assumption that you either took the comment out of context, or are making a mountain out of a molehill. I expected that. That seems to be the way around here.
Goodbye.
Come on guys. Don't give the regime things to rejoice over in their time of peril.
WOW!!!!!
Jesus-Maria y Jose!!!!
I have been away and missing all of this???? CB is where? These posts are all great medicine for the intellect and a wake up call as well. Sometimes we do seem to forget that Cuba and Cubans in the Island are the reason for doing these postings.... The lucky ones are US here in the USA.We can openly exchange our ideas, we live in a free society and have the FREEDOM to say what we feel, if others get offended then don't come here!
I agree that there are different kinds of Cuban thanks to our long journey in exile.
There are Cubans that left the Island, transferred to Miami in the early 60's worked hard, raised their children and now have deep roots in exile. Their children, second generation Cubans are taking the torch; but their vision of Cuba is not real....is only a "learned" vision, someone elses memories of life in Cuba, and days gone by.
There are "later on Cubans" that arrived when they were young or old, felt uprooted, came here always yearning to go back "home" and have never truly adapted.
There are Cubans here, children of the revolution, balseros, call them what you like, these poor souls only knew Castro's doctrine, and his miopic vision, their source of information was only one newspaper with the daily dose of communist propaganda. Those Cubans now amongst us are experiencing freedoom for the first time... they came here to "resolver" and help their loved ones left behind in the gulag, which by now is 200 times worse than when the first batch of Cubans left in the 60's...These "new generation" Cubans also hate Castro but to them Communism was a way of life,a putrid society in which they had to make ends meet to survive.
Some of us here, reading this blog are one of the Cubans above. Let's not forget where we came from, who we are, and why we are here, we can all agree to disagree as long as we treat each other with dignity and respect,this space belongs to CB and KC, they pay and maintain this blog,we are a guest in their home, if we don't like it here, we don't have to continue visiting or contributing.
In my humble and honest opinion (not a fact)I believe we are letting our "hot emotions and pride"get in our way... I once heard someone quote this:
PRIDE IS THE FALL OF ALL GREAT MEN> ABC's (American Born Cubans) or Cuban Americans be in Miami, New York or "La conchinchina" let us put our differences behind and concentrate on a free Cuba without the Castro brothers once and for all!!
Phew.......I will now go to my bar and make myself a big Mojito!!
Hi all -
I seldom write or comment on blogs because although I am the daughter of Cuban parents , I do not tink I have the knwldge to speak intelligently about 50 years of Cuban history.
but this particular post touched something in me. I showed it to my parents (both here for over 30 years) and they both agreed that KC was right on target. It takes guts to go against the current. It takes a lot of guts to expose yourself and your countrymen to the world. We donot see someone airing dirty laundry , we see someone who is willing to stick his neck our for what he belives.
The assualt on KC by Val prieto just proved everuthing kc had just discussed. Without realizing it that man just validated everything kc was saying. the quick name calling of nangara , how is that different from the calls my arents got of gusanos.
One fact is clear here the maturity level shown by kc here far outreaches that of val and his niece.
and the niece without even realizing it contradicts herself in so many ways is hard to belive she has an education.
Claiming his uncle doesnt care about hits and on the next post staing that of course everyone cares about hits was kindda laughable but it indicated the lack of moral conviction odf the detractors,
I have enjoyed this blog tremendulsy mainly because both cb & kc do not take themselves very seriusly and ther is always something you can enjoy even if it is not politics, also the information we have gotten from killcastro has always been far superior and more accurate than anywhere else.
so I will quote carmen and say . it is their home and a lot of us are more than happy they keep it the way they do!
we love you cb & kc do not let the envy of those far inferior to you two stop you from your work.
ps - my parents are from marianao also !
I have been receiving "interesting" e-mails from people that read my comments on this posting....Do you all want to know what type of Cuban am I???
I will tell you that I am type "A" Cuban:
I believe in "A" Free and Democratic Society for the New Cuba.
I don't believe that because I was born in Cuba and LIVED under Castro's dicatorship makes me a better Cuban than any other TYPE OF CUBAN here or there.
I am the type of "A" Cuban who is not afraid to speak her mind.
I will say again and again... the Cuban embargo DOES NOT EXIST. The only embargo imposed to Cuba is the Fidel Castro embargo, which he established 47 years ago.
I want the Castro brothers and their ridiculous "Revolution" choked to death, let the world know of their crimes and their system of failure! no money, no medicine, no credit, no aid from the USA, their system can't survive on Chavez's oil, or China's "goodwill". The Castro regime must come to an end, and I hope is coming real soon...
SO there you have it, quit bothering me with pitty elementary school childish comments and name calling,take a lesson on growing up gracefully.
The only type of Cuban that we need are the caring ones willing to put differences in our pockets and move on. If you are that type of Cuban then welcome aboard, if not, get the hell out and leave me alone!
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